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I’ve grown very very fond of Stian’s oversexed, nonchalant elder brother lately…so he deserved some more attention and has gotten a huge sketch dump.
Have fun with this horny, sexy lazy ass...
(Also: he is one of the main PoV characters in the novels I'm writing)
(for those who don't know: he's a siderian - a slender, big tiger-like feline- they are as tall as a small horse. Well, Goran is 1,68 m at the shoulders)

Some songs that represent him quite well...
His favourite activity: www.dailymotion.com/video/x28v… -Rammstein:Rein raus - just find a translation...
His general philosophy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbX30r… - Rammstein: Pussy
What he thinks of himself: www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0E8pX… - Günther: I'm not Justin Bieber *bitch*

Something he really likes: www.youtube.com/watch?v=z13qnz… - Günther: Ding Dong Dong (You touch my tralala)
.... yes, he's sometimes quite a pervert...and some sideresses don't appreciate his -sometimes provocative- sex-jokes and comments.

The bass in the start and throughout the song and the parts at 2.06 and 3.30 make me just think about him. Although the clip and lyrics have nothing to do with Goran
     Rammstein: Rosenrot - www.youtube.com/watch?v=af59U2…
And the part at 0.52 - 2.00 also just feel like if he could play that on a guitar - although siderians don't play electric guitars in the human way they have their own form of music instruments
    Immortal: Unearthly Kingdom -  www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQN1Lj…
    (...and you hear Stian's voice very briefly between 6.06-6.09)

More art of him:
Goran charactersheet by BlackMysticA Plotting... by BlackMysticA We defend what is ours by BlackMysticA Opposites United by BlackMysticA Everything fades to gray by BlackMysticA

See here the sketch dump of his 'little' (but taller) brother
Stian Sketchdump by BlackMysticA

Art, siderians and 'characters' all by me. Don't copy/use without my permission
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Vannjaren Featured By Owner Edited Apr 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Late *and loooooong* comment, but damn, this sketchdump is amazing! I’ve been looking forward to it ever since you first mentioned it, and the end results are fantastic! :dummy: :wow:

Firstly – your sketches are beautiful and fantastic, I love the details in them and how expressive they are, and your anatomy skills are fabulous as ever. I also really LOVE the way you colour your sketches; damn, I can’t colour anything near as well for full pieces let alone “sketches”… I love how you show the beautiful sheen on Goran’s coat and the reflective nature of it, really well done indeed (almost reminds me of how glossy black horses are). Ha, I wish I could show Reiker’s shine half as well as this (he also has a metallic blue sheen, but in Reiker is a bit of a more strong/harsh blue, more “electric blue” shine rather than Goran’s softer shine – though I think the softer shine works better on Goran anyway ^^)

Love his nonchalant and relaxed attitude that really comes across in these sketches, and I find his face rather handsome indeed! <3 I think the combination of the mohawk, more vertical ears and different cheek fur makes his face look narrower than Stian’s, but still deep and powerful as well.  I approve of his jewellery too, hehe. (I also have a spiked earring that kinda matches his :’D) I like seeing how he has some similar movements and mannerisms at times to Stian but is also very different, the difference in the skeleton and paw size is certainly quite striking. ^^ I also see a strong resemblance with his mother in that side-view – their white areas seem to match up rather closely in the face in terms of shape! ^^ (also profile shape looks quite similar indeed, which is fitting) Baby Goran is adorable with his fuzzy kitten-fur, hehe.

Stigana looks rather beautiful, but quite bittersweet an image as I can’t help but try to imagine how she might have looked if she had grown up… perhaps like a slightly narrower-faced, blue-eyed Stian… (also, heh, I see Goran has his confident attitude and grin even as a cub)

Interesting with his penchant for toothpicks and generally holding something in his mouth – an unusual and quirky habit that seems to suit him.

Ha, he kinda suits that mafia style – though I still prefer his mohawk, but at least his looks are versatile. :lol:

I particularly love the sketch of him drinking (shows off his shine and musculature beautifully, and the sketch above it is one of my favourites too!).

As for the sketch of him in old age, looks about similar in age to that recent drawing of him… and I can’t help but notice the fact that he has removed his other bracelets and his chain, but wears one thing only aside from his piercings – Stian’s vertebrae bracelet.

As for sleeping in elegant positions, ha… a few Krovens sleep similarly elegantly. :XD: (Adolphus tends to sleep lion-style on his back – and snoring like a ship’s foghorn. :’D)

 

As for his… favourite hobbies… :giggle: I’ve been thinking for a while, after hearing about this in Goran’s character-quiz, that I should introduce him to Danzig – but then again maybe not, or the resulting interactions will go off-the-scale perverted. :rofl: (dunno how much you know about him, but Danzig is the one Kroven I threaten to neuter. :laughing: As far as others would describe it – he’ll fck anything that stays still long enough. *he prefers females but will also fck males – and has. And likely will again…* He has some similarities to Goran there, though elsewise a rather different demeanour indeed – less lazy, nonchalant and intimidating than Goran, more kinda-hyper, in-your-face over-friendly and a bit of a goof, plus he has a tendency to sing A LOT. Including when drunk. Especially when drunk… which is a lot of the time. *bit addicted to brandy, heh* He has a pretty terrible reputation – either others think he’s a drunken waster and a scumbag, OR those who know of his occupation consider him dangerous… But yeah, I think Sibera can confirm a bit about Danzig, hehehe… as can poor Estella. :XD:)

Aaaanyway, back to Goran…

Love the sketch of him throwing blades – I notice in the sketch below where he is intimidating the other Siderian (who is nicely marked indeed btw!), he wears a wrist-guard holding more blades, it seems this is some speciality of his then? :D

Nice to see a Capreval again too btw! (also, as for the person’s comment below… I thought it was obvious that he went for the largest *species* of prey, not the largest/strongest individuals… *facepalm* Plus he is one Siderian with an individual preference for this – not representative of the hunting habits of every member of the species. But anyway…)

Ha, his kids are cute too! (well, the ones he knows about anyway… :lol: *as for Danzig, he’s never met any kids of his – though I can guarantee he has some. Reiker’s mother actually was one of his… so he’s basically Reiker’s mad green grandpa… :’D* I wonder though where Ruben got the nickname “Flappie”, I imagine there’s a story behind that… :’D I’d be very curious to see how they look like when they’ve grown up…

Love the sketch too of him defending his family against that other Siderian – whose markings I LOVE by the way – even your background characters are stunning! <3 Also, on that note, love the subtle bluish reflected sheen you’ve put on the background characters on this sketchdump, your lighting and shading skills really are fantastic. <3

And yes, THAT is the sketch that was mentioned before – love the intensity in the moment between them, and no matter how much Stian hated him for it, I think Goran indeed knew that he had no other option – and he wanted his brother to live more than he wanted his love, so he made that choice… beautiful sketch too of him and Rubi, and ah, the one of him and Falkner, I remember the uncoloured version of that from your Tumblr! ^^ (I now have a Tumblr as well – though so far it’s mostly random-spam aside from a few WIP sketches *though I have worked more on the WIP sketches and now have the base sketches for the ref pretty much finalised I think*)

As for his voice, I can definitely imagine his way of speaking... and ha, those songs. Dammit, I had the Tralala song in my head for hours before I was able to "wash it out" with other music... thanks, Goran. :XD:

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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017   General Artist

Ha thankies for the LOOONG comment! Goran likes attention hehe. And yeah I’ve worked for months on this… I think I really enjoy sketching. Even more than the detailed digital paintings I used to make. Yeah the colouring style is a kind of ‘efficient’ style, without much detail but with all the anatomical features showing clearly. And yeah Goran has quite a nice glossy coat, quite black but with this slightly blue sheen. I think he has this ‘metallic’ allele which Yves has as well.

And yeah I will soon be writing his first chapter (have been writing from other PoV characters first) and I want to give the reader the same impression as he gives you on this sketchdump. One of his first activities will actually be finding a female (using scentmarks) and f*cking her, after he realizes that he had come to the metacluster for another reason than just f*cking, eating and sleeping. So yeah, he gets a ‘straight to the point’ and typical Goran-like intro.

Oh and speaking of the facial features of the three siblings – I’m actually not sure whether Goran’s face is so much narrower than Stian’s. It’s mostly Stian’s airplane ears and cheek-fur that make his head appear much wider than it actually is. I’m actually getting curious to how Stígana might have looked as adult as well…I’ve some mental images. And indeed- you noticed that right – when Goran is old, he only wears the bracelet of his soulmate brother. But yeah he has to use another leather bracelet under it, because Stian’s wrists and paws were much heavier. Speaking of their family – I generally see that Mara’s influences are quite visible – even more so than Morten’s. Both brothers have Mara’s profile actually.

Lol and yeah, Goran has quite a few funny quirks. This thing with throwing objects and having things in his mouth is one of them XD. Oh and of course the elegant sleeping poses. Haha and I find it funny to imagine such a charismatic guy as Adolphus sleep like that…I only know that Stian hardly ever sleeps in such an inelegant pose.

Yo, lol you threaten Danzig with castration? I have a funny scene where a sideress actually threatens Goran with that once too. Squeezing his nuts was quite a clear warning to him. Hmm I can’t help but wonder how Krovens f*ck actually. Don’t think you’ve ever mentioned it, or I’ve forgotten. Most likely the latter. Still now you mention them all, I’m also so damn curious about Kroven family relations 8D. Would love to see a family tree once in Norway XD. Ha yeah the name Flappie is mostly because of his Rubi-like ears and I once knew an Oriental shorthair who just looked like him, who was also nicknamed Flappie…so then I got an idea…

Lol and yeah those figurants have no name yet, but I intend to adopt them into Stian’s ‘army’ because I really like their looks.


Oh yeah and that is indeed the sketch yeah…I still find it quite intense and I can so damn well understand Stian there. But without the help, he could have bled to death. It's only the fact that he deeply fears losing conciousness and that is exactly what they forced upon him. Anyway, the scene is actually even more complicated with Vivanna and Yava…I’ve written it down already, even though it’s a chapter somewhere in the third book…

Ha you have a tumblr as well now? I’ve been very inactive there during the last months. Have hardly drawn anything traditional and I’m too lazy to submit any WIPS…maybe I should do that a bit more often….


Ohja – these songs are not one of his voice-references. That I can only find in a Dutch movie about somebody who has a very high correlation with him (even his name-sake) – and that was not planned even O.O. That was mostly a coincidence. But anyway this way of thinking is VERY much him…especially the tralala and the rein-raus….and :rofl: yeah I used to say EXACTLY the same…”Thank you, Goran, for all the f*cking details…*

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Kelshray Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Wow-wow so many sketches o.o
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2017   General Artist
Yeah hopefully these sketches show off his personality well :)
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10animallover10 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Very cool character profile of him :)
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017   General Artist
Thanks! hopefully it gives a better insight in his personality and appearance. Although he first appears like a nonchalant, middlefinger-pointing pervert (although siderians don't point middle fingers, they might have another gesture that means the same...but I don't know -yet), he's actually a very social, understanding and gentle guy. One of the nicest of the family, together with Yava.
You will get to know him very well in the upcoming (written) novels...although I have no idea when I would have finished the first book...(not my comic, that's a separate try-out project) it will probably take a few more years XD
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KalahariMeerkatfan Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Um...what kind of animal is he hunting? But Mara and him as a little baby is utterly precious :heart:. Well done Rubi in the choice of bow :clap:, I think pink really is his color in this case :giggle:. But OMG I heard of Lori and Ruben...and Lori has to be the prettiest so far. I really like the red and white, it has a good contrast :nod:.

But what an interesting guy, and what he did for that Javine was quite nice as well. That one female is nice too, but who is she?

But Lori really is gorgeous :heart:, I hope we can see more of her and her brother. 
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017   General Artist
Oh that's a capreval - they look a sort of horse-goat like hybrid. They are actually closely related to goats, but have evolved a more horse-like anatomy and have become a tall as a moose. That makes them very challenging prey for siderians and only the stronger males are able to take down a male capreval - but then they have food for at least a week, so that's perfect for lazy guys like Goran. Siderians also collaborate once in a while, like lions, to take down caprevals, but then they have to share the meat obviously....
Ha yeah I should draw Mara With her kittens a bit more often...there are quite some interesting scenes to draw of Stian and Goran (and their sister Stígana, whom Stian never got to know...)
Lol that pink bowtie....haha hopeless...poor Goran. I could also imagine Lori and Ruben do that...they really turn out to be hopeless kids with such manner-less parents. But I have actually seen how Lori becomes as adult - very handsome and actually quite wise and mature. Maybe I will submit some more sketches of her soon.

Yeah the other two siderians are actually randommers whom I don't know. Maybe I get to know them once - but since Goran is quite a social guy, he meets and mates... a lot of siderians...
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DaemoniumNocturnal Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
ooh you finished it :excited: this turned out awesome :love: these sketch dumps are a very nice way to get to know them better, shows both things from his personality and appearance. some of these angles you have drawn him from make certain features in him much clearer, was the case with the sketchdump of his younger bro a well :happybounce: Also love how he has this metallic shine to his fur :heart: the poses you've drawn him in are very dynamic and well done too, something I've always admired is how good you are at foreshortening :wow:

hehe gotta love all the rammstein music :headbang: seems very fitting for him indeed :'D even with the pervertedness :giggle:
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017   General Artist
Ha Yeah indeed - I dunno how much time it has taken me, but definitely several months. But that's the nice thing when you're addicted to a character haha. But yeah this sketch dump shows the many different sides of his personality, which will also become much clearer in the books that I'm writing. I've started to appreciate him a lot lately. Even though he's quite a pervert - but that's just on the surface.
And yeah the nice thing of these sketch dumps is indeed that you get to know their look and anatomy much better - I knew in my head that he's very handsome, but it hasn't really come through in the other drawings.
Lol and I had to look up what foreshortening was again haha - I dunno I think I do that sort of naturally - and have a sort of 3D pcture of siderians in my head, so then it's just a matter of rotating them in the right angle.
Hhaha yeah especially those two songs (and the ones of Günther) are so damn typical....and I think many sideresses might feel a bit 'provoked' by his unsubtle way of flirting and all the sex-comments he makes...
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Ecfor Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find the name Gunnar hilarious. It's usually associated with old fat men that likes beer and mutter about the good ol' days xD - Greetings from somebody that speaks Swedish
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Edited Mar 20, 2017   General Artist
:rofl: except for the fact that Goran isn't fat, he DOES get really old and he would LOVE beer haha. But yeah here in Norway it's just a normal name. Haven't heard of any funny associations though. I think it means something like warrior actually. Maybe Goran is the warrior of sex and beer then hahaha. :ahoy::beer:
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LadyAlluvia Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Does Ruby mind Goran f.cking with any female? 
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
She's quite ok with it- that's how she got to knew him anyway. Some siderians are more polygamous than humans so for them it's more acceptable. But he does become a little bit less polygamous when he develops a more permanent relationship with Rubi.
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MonsterRife Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Student General Artist
Love your art :D
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Thanks!
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DevilAntRat Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Student General Artist
why would he go for the strongest preys?

If he kills the strongest, he makes the prey species weaker and therefore his own specie doesn't need to become stronger which means they end up all becoming weaker.. That's not a sustainable evolution..
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
I've written the biggest prey, not strongest.
I wonder - are you an evolutionary biologist?
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DevilAntRat Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Student General Artist
There is a direct correlation between size and strength for members of the same specie..
Since the muscles must be made the same way if they are of the same specie and sex, the difference in the strength output between the most efficient vs the least efficient isn't going to be very significant, so bigger muscles directly means more strength..
Of course sometimes ppl with thinner arms can win arm wrestle against those with bigger arms but it's because arms wrestle isn't just about the arm muscles and also that humans are not a good example because there is so many differences in how we live our lives and how we use our muscles.. some ppl simply don't use their muscles in a way that allows them to produce force in certain direction..
In nature, pretty much everyone is an athlete (trained to use their muscle in a efficient way) and the difference in athleticism between members of a same specie, same sex and same age is again not very significant.


Evolutionary biology and ethology is more of a hobby or an obsession for me, I am not a professional..
I just like to learn about new stuff and like to run evolutionary simulation. It's a very nice skill to have to create natural worlds as well as for creature design in general..
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Dunno but this is quite basic info to me. Also - evolution is quite a bit more complex than what you mentioned in the first comment. It's indeed fascinating - that's why I actually am a behavioural ecologists- now doing a PhD -actually- evolutionary biology. And I take this knowledge into account with siderians - so most things do make sense. And agreed - evolutionary and behavioral knowledge is essential for understanding other species and worlds and then write stories about them.
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DevilAntRat Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Student General Artist
Well If predators were directly targeting the stronger one in general, the advantage the stronger ones have to defend against predation would be balanced and would remain the higher energy cost of maintenance and building of their body compared the weaker ones which would lead to weaker preys being advantaged by evolution and thus a gradual weakening of the prey specie..

Which in turn would induce gradual weakening of the predators too.. that's why none of the big predators have this sort of behavior, it goes against their instinct because the evolutionary component that made them big in the first place was the need to hunt the easiest, least dangerous pick which is more often than one that fall on the weaker and smaller side..
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Edited Mar 19, 2017   General Artist
What I said in the drawing is that he targets the biggest prey species- not necessary the biggest individual, which does make quite a difference. And again - it's by far not as simple as that - there are many more selection pressures shaping a species than only predation. But I'm not going to waste my time in further explaining/discussing this. Didn't I mention that I'm -in fact- a professional in this? I work with evolutionary biology daily. So I'm not here on DA to be lectured on my field of expertise. I am here for the art.
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DevilAntRat Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2017  Student General Artist
ow right the biggest specie.. sorry..

Yes I understand there is plenty of different kind of selection pressures, but as time goes on, evolution tend to make them work together rather than conflict with each other because it's more efficient that way..

Well that's my observation, maybe you've been taught other things, I wasn't trying to bother you..
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2017   General Artist
Yes, but there will always be necessary variation and evolution never results in perfection. There is always be an arms-race going on between predators and prey. Moreover, getting strong and healthy prey would benefit the predators...So you see it's always evolutionary rope-pulling.
Anyway yes, I was a bit bothered because I submitted it to talk about the character and the art, but not to discuss elements of evolution I already know. And I assume I haven't learnt nonsense at a well ranked University- neither am I currently doing research on concepts I don't understand.  But it's allright now. I'm glad you have an interest in evolution - that is already better than nothing because I see so much fantasy around that doesn't make any sense in the light of evolution.  
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AaydenSmith Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Your artwork always amazes me so much... Such detail and expression!
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Thanks!
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shuzbunny Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Are the orange cubs his?
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Yep, one of the -probably- many. But these two are the one he knows. Their mother, Rubi,  is red and he apparently carries some gene for red too.
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Ginger-love Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
it's amazing :)
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Thanks. Eh, do you mean he's amazing, or the drawing? :confused:
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Ginger-love Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You deserve it ! The drawing and the character :la:
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BlackMysticA Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
:)
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